{"id":26393,"date":"2023-10-06T14:41:37","date_gmt":"2023-10-06T14:41:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/?page_id=26393"},"modified":"2023-10-06T14:41:40","modified_gmt":"2023-10-06T14:41:40","slug":"podcasts-on-illness","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts-on-illness\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcasts on Illness"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n<style>.kb-row-layout-id26393_9fb3e1-94 > .kt-row-column-wrap{align-content:start;}:where(.kb-row-layout-id26393_9fb3e1-94 > .kt-row-column-wrap) > .wp-block-kadence-column{justify-content:start;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_9fb3e1-94 > .kt-row-column-wrap{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem);row-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem);max-width:var( --global-content-width, 1290px );padding-left:var(--global-content-edge-padding);padding-right:var(--global-content-edge-padding);padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);padding-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 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class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedheading.kt-adv-heading26393_d291b1-3b, .wp-block-kadence-advancedheading.kt-adv-heading26393_d291b1-3b[data-kb-block=\"kb-adv-heading26393_d291b1-3b\"]{text-align:center;font-style:normal;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedheading.kt-adv-heading26393_d291b1-3b mark.kt-highlight, .wp-block-kadence-advancedheading.kt-adv-heading26393_d291b1-3b[data-kb-block=\"kb-adv-heading26393_d291b1-3b\"] mark.kt-highlight{font-style:normal;color:#f76a0c;-webkit-box-decoration-break:clone;box-decoration-break:clone;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;}<\/style>\n<h1 class=\"kt-adv-heading26393_d291b1-3b wp-block-kadence-advancedheading\" data-kb-block=\"kb-adv-heading26393_d291b1-3b\">Podcasts on Illness<\/h1>\n\n\n<style>.kb-row-layout-id26393_3ea124-b6 > .kt-row-column-wrap{align-content:start;}:where(.kb-row-layout-id26393_3ea124-b6 > .kt-row-column-wrap) > 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style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/07\/\" rel=\"tag\">07<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/living-with-the-end-in-mind\/\" target=\"_self\" >Living with the End in Mind<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/kathryn-mannix\/\" rel=\"tag\">Kathryn Mannix<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\"> <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 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aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/living-with-the-end-in-mind\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/living-with-the-end-in-mind\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Kathryn-Mannix-Square.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Living with the End in Mind\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Kathryn-Mannix-Square.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Kathryn-Mannix-Square-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Kathryn-Mannix-Square-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-29450 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-nuanced-hope tag-cancer tag-faith tag-francis-collins tag-grief tag-hope tag-science bucket-caring-at-work bucket-illness bucket-nuanced-hope guest-francis_collins season-1645 episode-551\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 3rem);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap{align-content:start;}:where(.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap) > 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1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid 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#1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/13\/\" rel=\"tag\">13<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/03\/\" rel=\"tag\">03<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/foolish-hopes\/\" target=\"_self\" >Foolish Hopes<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/francis_collins\/\" rel=\"tag\">Francis Collins<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\"> 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class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/foolish-hopes\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, 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1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid 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#1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/13\/\" rel=\"tag\">13<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/02\/\" rel=\"tag\">02<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/change-at-any-age\/\" target=\"_self\" >Change at Any Age<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/richard_hays\/\" rel=\"tag\">Richard Hays<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\"> 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class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/change-at-any-age\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/change-at-any-age\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/change-at-any-age\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/Richard-Hays-Square.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Change at Any Age\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/Richard-Hays-Square.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/Richard-Hays-Square-300x300.jpg 300w, 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.kt-row-column-wrap{padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap > .wp-block-kadence-column:nth-child(1){order:2;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap > .wp-block-kadence-column:nth-child(2){order:1;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap > .wp-block-kadence-column:nth-child(3){order:12;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap > .wp-block-kadence-column:nth-child(4){order:11;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap > .wp-block-kadence-column:nth-child(5){order:22;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap > .wp-block-kadence-column:nth-child(6){order:21;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap > .wp-block-kadence-column:nth-child(7){order:32;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap > .wp-block-kadence-column:nth-child(8){order:31;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{border-bottom:1px solid var(--global-palette3, 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1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/12\/\" rel=\"tag\">12<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/bonus\/\" rel=\"tag\">Bonus<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/you-are-not-the-bad-thing\/\" target=\"_self\" >You Are Not The Bad Thing<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/suleika-jaouad\/\" rel=\"tag\">Suleika Jaouad<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">There is a strange tension when we want so badly for the people we love to support us, but want to shield them from the pain at the same time. This is a beautiful, terrible kind of love. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/you-are-not-the-bad-thing\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/you-are-not-the-bad-thing\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > 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class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/12\/\" rel=\"tag\">12<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/bonus\/\" rel=\"tag\">Bonus<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/extraordinary-empathy\/\" target=\"_self\" >Extraordinary Empathy<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/abigail-marsh\/\" rel=\"tag\">Abigail Marsh<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Are some people more empathetic than others? By studying those on the opposite end of the compassion spectrum\u2013those with psychopathy\u2013researcher Dr. Abigail Marsh discovered something surprising. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/extraordinary-empathy\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > 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.kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/12\/\" rel=\"tag\">12<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/bonus\/\" rel=\"tag\">Bonus<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-uncertainty-specialist\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Uncertainty Specialist<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/sunita-puri\/\" rel=\"tag\">Sunita Puri<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Pain is like a geography\u2014one that isn\u2019t foreign to palliative care physician, Dr. Sunita Puri. Kate and Sunita speak about needing new language for walking the borderlands and how we all might learn to live\u2014and die\u2014with a bit more courage. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-uncertainty-specialist\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Sunita-500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"The Uncertainty Specialist\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Sunita-500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Sunita-500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Sunita-500-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-24629 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-inspiring-lives tag-alzheimers tag-caregiving tag-george-bush tag-george-hw-bush tag-jennabushbookclub tag-parenting tag-the-today-show bucket-grief bucket-illness bucket-inspiring-lives guest-jenna-bush-hager season-902 episode-549\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 3rem);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap{align-content:start;}:where(.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap) > 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1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/11\/\" rel=\"tag\">11<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > 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class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/01\/\" rel=\"tag\">01<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/get-in-the-game\/\" target=\"_self\" >Get in the Game<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/jenna-bush-hager\/\" rel=\"tag\">Jenna Bush Hager<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">The TODAY Show\u2019s Jenna Bush Hager sits down for a wide-ranging conversation with Kate Bowler. Together, they share about the importance of family and intergenerational relationships (Jenna shares such tender stories about her grandparents), how they hope to let their kids make mistakes and be met with grace, and how they both (try to) find beauty in ordinary, regular days and regular problems. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > 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class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/14\/\" rel=\"tag\">14<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-luckiest-unlucky-person\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Luckiest Unlucky Person<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/tig-notaro\/\" rel=\"tag\">Tig Notaro<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">How do you live knowing life can just come undone at a moment\u2019s notice? In the span of a few months, Tig Notaro received three life-threatening illnesses, unexpectedly lost her mom, and went through a breakup. Tig is a brilliant comedian whose real life informs her comedy and has a lot to teach us about living honestly in the face of reality. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-luckiest-unlucky-person\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-luckiest-unlucky-person\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-luckiest-unlucky-person\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tig-1.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"The Luckiest Unlucky Person\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" 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style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-art-of-presence\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Art of Presence<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/john-swinton\/\" rel=\"tag\">John Swinton<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Some people are the LEAN IN sort. They lean into your unsolvable problems, show up on your impossible days, and walk with you all the way to the end.\u00a0How do we become them? How do we create belonging when the people we love experience such uncertainty?\u00a0Practical theologian and mental health nurse John Swinton knows a thing or two about\u00a0this\u00a0kind of love.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-art-of-presence\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-art-of-presence\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/JohnSwinton2_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"The Art of Presence\" 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style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/02\/\" rel=\"tag\">02<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/adapting-to-loss\/\" target=\"_self\" >Adapting to Loss<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/frank-bruni\/\" rel=\"tag\">Frank Bruni<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Every problem New York Times columnist Frank Bruni faced had a simple fix. Doctors offered reasonable solutions for reasonable problems. Preventative care guaranteed future health. That is, until he woke up one morning without vision in his eye. This experience forced him to rethink how much of life is in our control and how to live fully in the face of unfixable problems. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/adapting-to-loss\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/adapting-to-loss\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/adapting-to-loss\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FrankBruni_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Adapting to Loss\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FrankBruni_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FrankBruni_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FrankBruni_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FrankBruni_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-14641 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-chronic-illness tag-chronic-pain tag-divorce tag-gratitude-shellac-to-suffering tag-migraines tag-parenting tag-talking-about-pain bucket-complicated-families bucket-illness bucket-what-not-to-say guest-kelly-corrigan season-558 episode-569\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 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1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/09\/\" rel=\"tag\">09<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/16\/\" rel=\"tag\">16<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cheers-to-the-crappies\/\" target=\"_self\" >Cheers to The Crappies<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/kelly-corrigan\/\" rel=\"tag\">Kelly Corrigan<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">This time of year can be rough. Somehow we are supposed to wrap it up or feel complete, but, more often than not, we can look back at a year that, well, sucked.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cheers-to-the-crappies\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cheers-to-the-crappies\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cheers-to-the-crappies\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/KellyCorrigan_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Cheers to The Crappies\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/KellyCorrigan_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/KellyCorrigan_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/KellyCorrigan_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/KellyCorrigan_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-13403 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-boundaries tag-chronic-illness tag-how-to-set-a-boundary tag-what-to-say tag-whole30 bucket-caring-at-home bucket-caring-at-work bucket-illness bucket-moving-forward guest-melissa-urban season-558 episode-557\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 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1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/09\/\" rel=\"tag\">09<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/07\/\" rel=\"tag\">07<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/melissa-urban-worthy-of-boundaries\/\" target=\"_self\" >Worthy of Boundaries<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/melissa-urban\/\" rel=\"tag\">Melissa Urban<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Melissa Urban\u2019s (CEO of The Whole30) experience of chronic illness forced her to accept her body\u2019s limitations. You are going to love her practical advice for setting healthy boundaries as a way to protect our relationships, manage our limited capacity (especially for those of us navigating chronic pain or illness or caregiving), and remind ourselves of our inherent worth (regardless of how much you can do). <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/melissa-urban-worthy-of-boundaries\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle 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24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/melissa-urban-worthy-of-boundaries\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MelissaUrban_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Worthy of Boundaries\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MelissaUrban_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MelissaUrban_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MelissaUrban_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MelissaUrban_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-12960 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-caring-at-home tag-aging tag-everybody-has-their-thing tag-parenting-medically-complicated-children bucket-complicated-families bucket-illness 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class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/09\/\" rel=\"tag\">09<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/mary-laura-philpott-everybody-has-something\/\" target=\"_self\" >Everybody Has Something<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/mary-laura-philpott\/\" rel=\"tag\">Mary Laura Philpott<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Writer Mary Laura Philpott had all the regular kind of parental worries until her teenage son had his first seizure. She had to learn to balance her fear alongside her love all the while recognizing that everyone has something they are dealing with.\u00a0\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/mary-laura-philpott-everybody-has-something\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/mary-laura-philpott-everybody-has-something\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/mary-laura-philpott-everybody-has-something\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MaryLauraPhilpott_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Everybody Has Something\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MaryLauraPhilpott_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MaryLauraPhilpott_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MaryLauraPhilpott_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MaryLauraPhilpott_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-12835 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-address-racism-with-kids tag-cancer tag-colon-cancer tag-fragility tag-parenting tag-patient-vs-caregiver tag-racism tag-scars-are-evidence-of-life bucket-complicated-families bucket-illness bucket-inspiring-lives guest-ibram-kendi season-558 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kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/09\/\" rel=\"tag\">09<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/01\/\" rel=\"tag\">01<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/dr-ibram-x-kendi-showing-your-scars\/\" target=\"_self\" >Showing Your Scars<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/ibram-kendi\/\" rel=\"tag\">Ibram Kendi<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Ibram Kendi and Kate Bowler have more in common than they would have liked. Historians and professors. Parents of young kids. Diagnosed with Stage IV colon cancer at age 35. No history of the disease in their families. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/dr-ibram-x-kendi-showing-your-scars\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/dr-ibram-x-kendi-showing-your-scars\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/dr-ibram-x-kendi-showing-your-scars\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/IbramXKendi_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Showing Your Scars\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/IbramXKendi_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/IbramXKendi_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/IbramXKendi_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/IbramXKendi_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-11646 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-before-after tag-bittersweet tag-chronic-pain tag-compassion tag-compassion-fatigue tag-joy tag-longings tag-pain bucket-illness bucket-inspiring-lives bucket-nuanced-hope guest-susan-cain season-590 episode-566\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 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style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/08\/\" rel=\"tag\">08<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/13\/\" rel=\"tag\">13<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/susan-cain-survival-of-the-kindest\/\" target=\"_self\" >Survival of the Kindest<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/susan-cain\/\" rel=\"tag\">Susan Cain<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">How is it that joy and pain seem to coexist at once? Susan Cain (author of the bestseller Quiet) explores this question in her new book, Bittersweet.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/susan-cain-survival-of-the-kindest\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/susan-cain-survival-of-the-kindest\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/susan-cain-survival-of-the-kindest\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/SusanCain_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Survival of the Kindest\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/SusanCain_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/SusanCain_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/SusanCain_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/SusanCain_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-11337 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-accepting-the-reality-of-pain tag-chronic-illness tag-chronic-pain tag-demarcations-between-mind-and-body tag-difference-between-pain-and-suffering tag-how-to-treat-pain bucket-caring-at-work bucket-illness guest-haider-warraich season-590 episode-565\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 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.kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/12\/\" rel=\"tag\">12<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/haider-warraich-embracing-the-complexity-of-pain\/\" target=\"_self\" >Embracing the Complexity of Pain<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/haider-warraich\/\" rel=\"tag\">Haider Warraich<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">When a random weight-lifting accident left cardiologist Dr. Haider Warraich in chronic pain, he went from being a physician to being a patient in one moment. His experience of chronic pain gives him a hardwon insight as he reexamines how we understand and treat pain. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/haider-warraich-embracing-the-complexity-of-pain\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/haider-warraich-embracing-the-complexity-of-pain\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle 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wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/08\/\" rel=\"tag\">08<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/09\/\" rel=\"tag\">09<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cammie-mcgovern-mythbusting-parenting\/\" target=\"_self\" >Mythbusting Parenting<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/cammie-mcgovern\/\" rel=\"tag\">Cammie McGovern<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">We often have very romantic expectations about parenthood. Parenthood is about a mythical child who will be perfect in a way we haven\u2019t quite put our finger on, and the journey to love them to teach us something reasonably easy about ourselves. But what if we are not the parents we thought we\u2019d be? Or our kids are not the kids we thought we\u2019d have? <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cammie-mcgovern-mythbusting-parenting\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cammie-mcgovern-mythbusting-parenting\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/CammieMcGovern_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Mythbusting Parenting\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" 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style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 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.kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/07\/\" rel=\"tag\">07<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/ann-patchett-behold-these-precious-days\/\" target=\"_self\" >Behold, These Precious Days<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/ann-patchett\/\" rel=\"tag\">Ann Patchett<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Bestselling novelist Ann Patchett knows how to walk right up to the edge with people she loves. She is the friend who sits with you during chemo, or lets you spill your secrets in the car. She shares what powerful lessons she learned early on about how to approach suffering with humility, knowing you can rarely change a life, but you can be there to witness and be amazed. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/ann-patchett-behold-these-precious-days\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/ann-patchett-behold-these-precious-days\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/ann-patchett-behold-these-precious-days\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/AnnPatchett_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Behold, These Precious Days\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" 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class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all 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.kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/01\/\" rel=\"tag\">01<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/katie-couric-the-courage-to-try-and-wisdom-to-know-when-to-let-go\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Courage to Try (and Wisdom to Know When to Let Go)<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/katie-couric\/\" rel=\"tag\">Katie Couric<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Katie Couric is an award-winning journalist and bestselling author. Her hustle and ambition not only served her career aspirations, but when faced with the unthinkable, she poured those same qualities into tireless advocacy.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/katie-couric-the-courage-to-try-and-wisdom-to-know-when-to-let-go\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/katie-couric-the-courage-to-try-and-wisdom-to-know-when-to-let-go\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/katie-couric-the-courage-to-try-and-wisdom-to-know-when-to-let-go\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/KatieCouric_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail 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class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all 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.kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/16\/\" rel=\"tag\">16<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/david-brooks-kate-bowler-never-ever-enough\/\" target=\"_self\" >Never, Ever Enough<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/david-brooks\/\" rel=\"tag\">David Brooks<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">How do we reach for wisdom instead of self-help solutions? Much to their embarrassment, New York Times columnist David Brooks and Kate Bowler often find their books in the \u201cSelf-Help section.\u201d David sat down with Kate at the historic Sixth &#038; I Synagogue in Washington, D.C. to talk about her book, No Cure For Being Human, and the twisty-turny journey of living without easy answers.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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.kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/david-brooks-kate-bowler-never-ever-enough\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DavidBrooksandKate_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Never, Ever Enough\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DavidBrooksandKate_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DavidBrooksandKate_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DavidBrooksandKate_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DavidBrooksandKate_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-10023 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-complicated-families tag-depression tag-difference-between-stress-and-trauma tag-discipline-and-willpower 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.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/12\/\" rel=\"tag\">12<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/alexi-pappas-staying-awake-to-our-pain\/\" target=\"_self\" >Staying Awake to Our Pain<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/alexi-pappas\/\" rel=\"tag\">Alexi Pappas<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">When she was a child, Alexi Pappas lost her mother to suicide. So when Alexi faced a season of deep depression she knew had to find a different way forward. That\u2019s when her training as an Olympic runner became invaluable.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/alexi-pappas-staying-awake-to-our-pain\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/alexi-pappas-staying-awake-to-our-pain\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/alexi-pappas-staying-awake-to-our-pain\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/AlexiPappas_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Staying Awake to Our Pain\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" 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and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/07\/\" rel=\"tag\">07<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/09\/\" rel=\"tag\">09<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/stanley-tucci-simple-pleasures-small-joys\/\" target=\"_self\" >Simple Pleasures. Small Joys.<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/stanley-tucci\/\" rel=\"tag\">Stanley Tucci<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Stanley Tucci is a total foodie\u2014of course, he starred in Julie and Julia and brought us the mouth-watering CNN special, Searching for Italy. But when he was diagnosed with oral cancer, his ability to enjoy food might be ruined permanently.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/stanley-tucci-simple-pleasures-small-joys\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/stanley-tucci-simple-pleasures-small-joys\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/stanley-tucci-simple-pleasures-small-joys\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/StanleyTucci_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Simple Pleasures. 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class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/07\/\" rel=\"tag\">07<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/02\/\" rel=\"tag\">02<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cecily-strong-embracing-the-yes-and\/\" target=\"_self\" >Embracing the Yes\/And<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/cecily-strong\/\" rel=\"tag\">Cecily Strong<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Can hilarity and sorrow co-exist? Comedian and actress Cecily Strong (of Saturday Night Live fame) is professionally funny. But after a series of losses, she was forced to discover how devastation and love sometimes exist at the same time\u2014both in great measure. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cecily-strong-embracing-the-yes-and\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cecily-strong-embracing-the-yes-and\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/cecily-strong-embracing-the-yes-and\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/CecilyStrong_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Embracing the Yes\/And\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/CecilyStrong_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/CecilyStrong_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/CecilyStrong_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/CecilyStrong_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-7295 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-what-not-to-say tag-dorothy-day tag-kelly-corrigan tag-pbs tag-tell-me-more bucket-complicated-families bucket-illness bucket-inspiring-lives guest-kelly-corrigan season-587 episode-572\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 3rem);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > 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1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/06\/\" rel=\"tag\">06<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/19\/\" rel=\"tag\">19<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/bonus-episode-debunking-everything-happens-for-a-reason-with-kelly-corrigan\/\" target=\"_self\" >Bonus Episode: Debunking &#8220;Everything Happens for a Reason&#8221; with Kelly Corrigan<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/kelly-corrigan\/\" rel=\"tag\">Kelly Corrigan<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">The Everything Happens team is still on a bit of a summer break, but don&#8217;t worry! We&#8217;ll be back in August with all new episodes. We thought it might be fun to surprise you with this bonus episode. Kate spoke with her friend, the brilliant and hilarious bestselling writer Kelly Corrigan on Kelly&#8217;s Podcast: Kelly Corrigan Wonders. Together, the two debunk conventional wisdom like the notion that &#8220;Everything Happens for a Reason.&#8221; <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/bonus-episode-debunking-everything-happens-for-a-reason-with-kelly-corrigan\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/bonus-episode-debunking-everything-happens-for-a-reason-with-kelly-corrigan\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/bonus-episode-debunking-everything-happens-for-a-reason-with-kelly-corrigan\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/KellyCorrigan2_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail 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class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/06\/\" rel=\"tag\">06<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/18\/\" rel=\"tag\">18<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/season-finale-how-far-weve-come\/\" target=\"_self\" >Season Finale: How Far We&#8217;ve Come<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/kate-bowler\/\" rel=\"tag\">Kate Bowler<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">In our season six finale, Kate takes us back to the very beginning. In this episode, you\u2019ll hear the unlikely beginning of the Everything Happens podcast, the most terrified Kate\u2019s ever been (for fun reasons), and how love and beauty can surprise us in some of the most unlikely of spaces. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/season-finale-how-far-weve-come\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/season-finale-how-far-weve-come\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/season-finale-how-far-weve-come\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/KateBowlerTedTalk_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Season Finale: How Far We&#8217;ve Come\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/KateBowlerTedTalk_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/KateBowlerTedTalk_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/KateBowlerTedTalk_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/KateBowlerTedTalk_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-7032 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-cancer tag-empathy tag-leukemia tag-young-people-getting-cancer bucket-illness bucket-moving-forward guest-suleika-jaouad season-587 episode-569\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 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1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/06\/\" rel=\"tag\">06<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/16\/\" rel=\"tag\">16<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/suleika-jaouad-you-are-not-the-bad-thing-part-2\/\" target=\"_self\" >You Are Not The Bad Thing<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/suleika-jaouad\/\" rel=\"tag\">Suleika Jaouad<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">There is a strange tension when we want so badly for the people we love to support us, but want to shield them from the pain at the same time. 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.kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/suleika-jaouad-you-are-not-the-bad-thing-part-2\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/suleika-jaouad-you-are-not-the-bad-thing-part-2\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/suleika-jaouad-you-are-not-the-bad-thing-part-2\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SuleikaJaouad_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"You Are Not The Bad Thing\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SuleikaJaouad_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SuleikaJaouad_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SuleikaJaouad_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SuleikaJaouad_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-6997 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-between-two-kingdoms tag-cancer tag-diagnosis-at-young-age tag-isolation-journals tag-suleika-jaouad tag-terminal-illness bucket-illness bucket-moving-forward guest-suleika-jaouad season-587 episode-568\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 3rem);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap{align-content:start;}:where(.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap) > .wp-block-kadence-column{justify-content:start;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem);row-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem);padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-xxl, 5rem);grid-template-columns:minmax(0, calc(50% - ((var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem) * 1 )\/2)))minmax(0, calc(50% - ((var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem) * 1 )\/2)));}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{border-bottom:1px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:repeat(2, minmax(0, 1fr));}}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{border-bottom:1px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}}@media all and 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1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/06\/\" rel=\"tag\">06<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/15\/\" rel=\"tag\">15<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/suleika-jaouad-the-kingdom-of-the-sick\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Kingdom of the Sick<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/suleika-jaouad\/\" rel=\"tag\">Suleika Jaouad<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">There are two different worlds people inhabit. In one world, people feel infinite bounce. They can see every silver lining and believe in their bones things will always get better and that any set back is probably temporary. But then, there\u2019s the other world. These people know what it feels like to live scan-to-scan and hold their breath when the doctor\u2019s number shows up on their phone. Bestselling author of Between Two Kingdoms, Suleika Jaouad knows what it means to carry this dual citizenship between the kingdom of the well and the kingdom of the sick. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/suleika-jaouad-the-kingdom-of-the-sick\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/suleika-jaouad-the-kingdom-of-the-sick\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/suleika-jaouad-the-kingdom-of-the-sick\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SuleikaJaouad_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"The Kingdom of the Sick\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SuleikaJaouad_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SuleikaJaouad_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SuleikaJaouad_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SuleikaJaouad_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-6601 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-auto-immune tag-b-version tag-guillain-barre-syndrome tag-in-between-independence-and-dependence tag-jobs-or-friends tag-life-in-between-relationships tag-liminal-spaces bucket-caring-at-work bucket-illness guest-mari-andrew season-587 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kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/06\/\" rel=\"tag\">06<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/12\/\" rel=\"tag\">12<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/mari-andrew-beautiful-terrible-and-everything-in-between\/\" target=\"_self\" >Beautiful, Terrible, and Everything In-Between<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/mari-andrew\/\" rel=\"tag\">Mari Andrew<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">How do we navigate the life in-between? In-between relationships or jobs or friends. In-between independence and dependence. In-between the life we have and the life we\u2019ve always wanted. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/mari-andrew-beautiful-terrible-and-everything-in-between\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > 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1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/33\/\" rel=\"tag\">33<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/nikki-deloach-a-not-so-hallmark-christmas\/\" target=\"_self\" >A Not-So Hallmark Christmas<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/nikki-deloach\/\" rel=\"tag\">Nikki DeLoach<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">The pandemic has introduced many to living with uncertainty. But for some, uncertainty has always been their norm. Actress Nikki Deloach has starred in several Hallmark Christmas movies, but her life hasn\u2019t matched the happily-ever-after plot-lines of her characters. Nikki\u2019s dad was diagnosed with an aggressive form of dementia and her son was diagnosed with congenital heart defects in utero\u2026 all in the same week. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/nikki-deloach-a-not-so-hallmark-christmas\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" 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767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/nikki-deloach-a-not-so-hallmark-christmas\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/NikkiDeloach_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"A Not-So Hallmark Christmas\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/NikkiDeloach_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/NikkiDeloach_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/NikkiDeloach_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/NikkiDeloach_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-5220 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-best-lives-now tag-chronic-illness tag-death-of-parent tag-foster-care tag-grief-of-teenagers tag-helplessness tag-humor tag-joy tag-losing-agency tag-ms tag-perfection tag-self-acceptance tag-storytelling tag-swearing bucket-grief bucket-illness bucket-moving-forward guest-samantha-irby season-559 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class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/30\/\" rel=\"tag\">30<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/samantha-irby-im-doing-my-best-life-now\/\" target=\"_self\" >I&#8217;m Doing My Best (Life Now)<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/samantha-irby\/\" rel=\"tag\">Samantha Irby<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Though magazines and movie stars try to convince us otherwise, we aren\u2019t all living our BEST LIFE NOW. When humor writer Samantha Irby lost both of her parents at 18, she developed the perfect coping mechanism: finding the absurd in everything. In this conversation, Kate and Samantha have a wide-ranging conversation about topics like grieving their Sweet Valley High life goals, and how losing your parents as a child is the worst form of losing agency, and how important it is to speak honestly about our bodies and love them still. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/SamanthaIrby_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"I&#8217;m Doing My Best (Life Now)\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/SamanthaIrby_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/SamanthaIrby_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/SamanthaIrby_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/SamanthaIrby_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-4929 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry tag-binge-eating-disorder tag-eating-disorder tag-empty tag-susan-burton bucket-illness guest-susan-burton season-559 episode-579\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 3rem);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap{align-content:start;}:where(.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap) > .wp-block-kadence-column{justify-content:start;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-column-wrap{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem);row-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem);padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-xxl, 5rem);grid-template-columns:minmax(0, calc(50% - ((var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem) * 1 )\/2)))minmax(0, calc(50% - ((var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem) * 1 )\/2)));}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{border-bottom:1px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > 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.aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_01708b-9a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_01708b-9a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_01708b-9a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_01708b-9a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_01708b-9a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-bottom:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{align-content:center;}:where(.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap) > .wp-block-kadence-column{justify-content:center;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-none, 0rem );row-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);max-width:412px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/26\/\" rel=\"tag\">26<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/susan-burton-bless-this-body\/\" target=\"_self\" >Bless This Body<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/susan-burton\/\" rel=\"tag\">Susan Burton<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">There are some secrets we&#8217;d rather not tell, but that eat us alive anyway. Writer Susan Burton was trapped in an eating disorder with no good name. Today&#8217;s conversation is not a victory story. Issues with our bodies are not ones we overcome because our bodies are, you know, living things. Kate and Susan discuss how we struggle against shame and learn to have compassion for ourselves and our fragile, beautiful bodies. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/susan-burton-bless-this-body\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/susan-burton-bless-this-body\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > 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srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SusanBurton_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SusanBurton_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SusanBurton_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SusanBurton_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-4756 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-actor tag-chronic-illness tag-friendship tag-galavant tag-joel-mchale tag-psych-the-movie tag-spy-kids-4 tag-stroke tag-timothy-omundson bucket-illness guest-joel-mchale guest-timothy-omundson season-559 episode-566\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 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1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/13\/\" rel=\"tag\">13<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/timothy-omundson-joel-mchale-flying-buttresses\/\" target=\"_self\" >Flying Buttresses<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/joel-mchale\/\" rel=\"tag\">Joel McHale<\/a><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__separator\">, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/timothy-omundson\/\" rel=\"tag\">Timothy Omundson<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Timothy Omundson knows what it feels like to make something, then have well-made plans come apart after he suffered a massive stroke at the height of his acting career. Kate speaks with Tim and Joel McHale about the power of hard work and friendship. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/timothy-omundson-joel-mchale-flying-buttresses\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/timothy-omundson-joel-mchale-flying-buttresses\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/TimandJoel_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Flying Buttresses\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" 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1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/12\/\" rel=\"tag\">12<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/jason-rosenthal-blank-space\/\" target=\"_self\" >Blank Space<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/jason-rosenthal\/\" rel=\"tag\">Jason Rosenthal<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">When Jason Rosenthal\u2019s wife died, she left him a gift that he couldn\u2019t even have known to ask for\u2014in the form of a viral Modern Love article. Today\u2019s episode is about the kind of love that walks us to the very edge and charts a way forward. Even when forward seems impossible to imagine. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/jason-rosenthal-blank-space\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/jason-rosenthal-blank-space\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/JasonRosenthal_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Blank Space\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/JasonRosenthal_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/JasonRosenthal_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/JasonRosenthal_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/JasonRosenthal_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-4748 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-aging-parents tag-brokenness tag-car-accident tag-chronic-illness tag-disease-as-companions-in-life tag-durable-and-fragile tag-evangelical-hero-complex tag-faith tag-formula-approach-to-faith tag-god-with-us tag-heartline-ministries tag-miracles tag-miscarriage tag-ordinary-miracles tag-pentecostal tag-resilient-faith tag-sarah-bessey tag-shame bucket-illness 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class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/11\/\" rel=\"tag\">11<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sarah-bessey-ordinary-miracles\/\" target=\"_self\" >Ordinary Miracles<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/sarah-bessey\/\" rel=\"tag\">Sarah Bessey<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Sarah Bessey speaks right to the soft spot where our deepest pain and deepest hope meet. The place where in the bleakest of nights we whisper, What if this doesn\u2019t get better? If you find yourself in that tender spot today, this conversation is for you.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sarah-bessey-ordinary-miracles\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sarah-bessey-ordinary-miracles\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/SarahBessey_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Ordinary Miracles\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/SarahBessey_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/SarahBessey_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/SarahBessey_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/SarahBessey_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-4682 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-caring-at-home tag-barter-prayer tag-community tag-donors tag-gardener tag-having-kids tag-hope tag-hopeful tag-kindness tag-limited-agency tag-liver-cancer tag-pandemic tag-parenting tag-parenting-medically-complicated-children tag-pediatric-cancer tag-policy tag-stage-4-cancer tag-transplant tag-wajahat-ali bucket-complicated-families bucket-illness bucket-nuanced-hope guest-wajahat-ali 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class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/06\/\" rel=\"tag\">06<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/wajahat-ali-make-me-a-gardener\/\" target=\"_self\" >Make Me A Gardener<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/wajahat-ali\/\" rel=\"tag\">Wajahat Ali<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Wajahat Ali was about to give a TED talk on the global case for having more kids, when he received news no parent should ever hear. Kate and Waj speak about parenting amid fear, unexpected kindness, and how kids really are our greatest act of hope. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/wajahat-ali-make-me-a-gardener\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/wajahat-ali-make-me-a-gardener\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/wajahat-ali-make-me-a-gardener\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/WajahatAli_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Make Me A Gardener\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/WajahatAli_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/WajahatAli_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/WajahatAli_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/WajahatAli_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-4650 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-inspiring-lives tag-agency tag-chasing-my-cure tag-chronic-illness tag-college-students tag-david-fajgenbaum tag-death-of-parent tag-doctor tag-grief-support tag-hope tag-hyper-agency tag-joy tag-possibility tag-rare-disease tag-uncertainty bucket-caring-at-work bucket-grief bucket-illness guest-david-fajgenbaum season-559 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kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/david-fajgenbaum-hope-wears-sneakers\/\" target=\"_self\" >Hope Wears Sneakers<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/david-fajgenbaum\/\" rel=\"tag\">David Fajgenbaum<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">This is the story of one young doctor\u2019s race against the clock as he searches for a cure for his own rare disease that brought him to the brink of death too many times to count. In this episode, Kate and David Fajgenbaum speak about facing impossible odds and how love can turn hope into action. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/david-fajgenbaum-hope-wears-sneakers\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/david-fajgenbaum-hope-wears-sneakers\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/david-fajgenbaum-hope-wears-sneakers\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/DavidFajgenbaum_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Hope Wears Sneakers\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/DavidFajgenbaum_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/DavidFajgenbaum_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/DavidFajgenbaum_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/DavidFajgenbaum_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-4602 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-cancer tag-covid-19 tag-covid19 tag-death-of-a-parent tag-grief tag-joy tag-lori-gottlieb tag-productive-anxiety tag-psychotherapist tag-tragedy tag-uncertainty tag-unlimited-horizon tag-unproductive-anxiety bucket-caring-at-work bucket-illness guest-lori-gottlieb season-559 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kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/04\/\" rel=\"tag\">04<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/lori-gottlieb-does-my-pain-count\/\" target=\"_self\" >Does My Pain Count?<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/lori-gottlieb\/\" rel=\"tag\">Lori Gottlieb<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">How do we find joy and connection when tragedy surrounds us? In this episode, Kate speaks with bestselling author and psychotherapist Lori Gottlieb about creating daily rhythms, living in the both\/and, and grief in the time of COVID19. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/lori-gottlieb-does-my-pain-count\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/lori-gottlieb-does-my-pain-count\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/lori-gottlieb-does-my-pain-count\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/LoriGottlieb_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Does My Pain Count?\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/LoriGottlieb_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/LoriGottlieb_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/LoriGottlieb_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/LoriGottlieb_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-4615 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-illness tag-community tag-feminism tag-glennon-doyle tag-identity tag-off-script tag-pain tag-parenting tag-resiliance tag-roles tag-together-rising tag-vulnerability tag-women bucket-complicated-families bucket-illness guest-glennon-doyle season-559 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kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/03\/\" rel=\"tag\">03<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/glennon-doyle-the-love-bridge\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Love Bridge<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/glennon-doyle\/\" rel=\"tag\">Glennon Doyle<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">We need guides to walk with us when life goes a little off-script. In this episode, Kate speaks with bestselling author Glennon Doyle about unlearning the roles we&#8217;re stuck inside even when it costs us and what&#8217;s better than being perfect&#8211;being human. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/glennon-doyle-the-love-bridge\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/glennon-doyle-the-love-bridge\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/glennon-doyle-the-love-bridge\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/GlennonDoyle_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"The Love Bridge\" 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class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/02\/\" rel=\"tag\">02<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sunita-puri-the-uncertainty-specialist\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Uncertainty Specialist<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/sunita-puri\/\" rel=\"tag\">Sunita Puri<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Pain is like a geography\u2014one that isn&#8217;t foreign to palliative care physician, Dr. Sunita Puri. Kate and Sunita speak about needing new language for walking the borderlands and how we all might learn to live\u2014and die\u2014with a bit more courage. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sunita-puri-the-uncertainty-specialist\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sunita-puri-the-uncertainty-specialist\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sunita-puri-the-uncertainty-specialist\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/SunitaPuri_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"The Uncertainty Specialist\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/SunitaPuri_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/SunitaPuri_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/SunitaPuri_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/SunitaPuri_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-4153 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-caring-at-work tag-doctor tag-loneliness tag-patient-care tag-us-surgeon-general bucket-caring-at-work bucket-illness guest-vivek-murthy season-561 episode-553\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 3rem);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_13cb9f-0d > 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.kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/04\/\" rel=\"tag\">04<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/vivek-murthy-the-loneliness-epidemic\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Loneliness Epidemic<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/vivek-murthy\/\" rel=\"tag\">Vivek Murthy<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">US Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy embarked on a listening tour to determine what was ailing Americans. The answer surprised him. In this soulful conversation, he speaks with Kate about loneliness as a public health crisis and how the experience of disconnection affects our ability to weather life\u2019s most difficult storms. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/vivek-murthy-the-loneliness-epidemic\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/vivek-murthy-the-loneliness-epidemic\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/VivekMurthy_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"The Loneliness Epidemic\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/VivekMurthy_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/VivekMurthy_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/VivekMurthy_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/VivekMurthy_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-4008 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-what-not-to-say tag-childrens-media tag-death tag-hiv-and-aids tag-homelessness tag-sesame-street tag-sharing-hard-realities-with-kids tag-trauma tag-truth-telling bucket-complicated-families bucket-grief bucket-illness bucket-what-not-to-say guest-sherrie-westin season-561 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kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/04\/\" rel=\"tag\">04<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/01\/\" rel=\"tag\">01<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sesame-street-how-do-we-talk-to-kids-about-hard-things\/\" target=\"_self\" >How Do We Talk to Kids about Hard Things?<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/sherrie-westin\/\" rel=\"tag\">Sherrie Westin<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">How do we prepare our kids for a world we can&#8217;t always protect them from? Sesame Street creates educational programs to make the most vulnerable among us smarter, stronger, and kinder in the face of difficult realities. On this episode, Kate speaks with Sherrie Westin, the President of Global Impact and Philanthropy at the Sesame Workshop on how to tell our kids the hard truths in age appropriate ways. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sesame-street-how-do-we-talk-to-kids-about-hard-things\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sesame-street-how-do-we-talk-to-kids-about-hard-things\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/sesame-street-how-do-we-talk-to-kids-about-hard-things\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/SherrieWestin_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" 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1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_1c1764-af alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/03\/\" rel=\"tag\">03<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/07\/\" rel=\"tag\">07<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/jerome-adams-we-belong-to-each-other\/\" target=\"_self\" >We Belong to Each Other<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/jerome-adams\/\" rel=\"tag\">Jerome Adams<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams is committed to combatting the rising fatalities from opioids because he knows the struggle too well. His brother is one of the millions of Americans who is ensnared by addiction. Jerome talks to Kate about how a broken heart helped him understand his job as \u201cAmerica\u2019s doctor.\u201d <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/jerome-adams-we-belong-to-each-other\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/jerome-adams-we-belong-to-each-other\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/jerome-adams-we-belong-to-each-other\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/JeromeAdams_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"We Belong to Each Other\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/JeromeAdams_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/JeromeAdams_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/JeromeAdams_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/JeromeAdams_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-3386 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-caring-at-home tag-bipolar tag-caregiving tag-communication tag-marriage tag-mental-illness tag-parenting kadence-cloud-keywords-bipolar kadence-cloud-keywords-caregiving kadence-cloud-keywords-communication kadence-cloud-keywords-marriage kadence-cloud-keywords-mental-illness kadence-cloud-keywords-parenting bucket-caring-at-home bucket-complicated-families bucket-illness guest-mark-lukach 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kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/02\/\" rel=\"tag\">02<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/03\/\" rel=\"tag\">03<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/mark-lukach-true-believers\/\" target=\"_self\" >True Believers<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/mark-lukach\/\" rel=\"tag\">Mark Lukach<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Mark Lukach felt like he was hit with a tsunami when his beautiful marriage was upended by mental illness. With one diagnosis, he lost his wife and gained a lifelong patient. Mark and Kate explore the cost of caregiving and the importance of finding the true believers who will love through it all. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/mark-lukach-true-believers\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/mark-lukach-true-believers\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/mark-lukach-true-believers\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/MarkLukach_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"True Believers\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/MarkLukach_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/MarkLukach_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/MarkLukach_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/MarkLukach_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-3381 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-what-not-to-say tag-cancer tag-empathy tag-what-not-to-say tag-what-to-say kadence-cloud-keywords-cancer kadence-cloud-keywords-empathy kadence-cloud-keywords-empathy-cards kadence-cloud-keywords-what-not-to-say kadence-cloud-keywords-what-to-say bucket-illness bucket-what-not-to-say guest-emily-mcdowell season-554 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kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/02\/\" rel=\"tag\">02<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/01\/\" rel=\"tag\">01<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/emily-mcdowell-theres-no-good-card-for-that-s2e1\/\" target=\"_self\" >There&#8217;s No Good Card for That<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/emily-mcdowell\/\" rel=\"tag\">Emily McDowell<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Why is it so hard to say the right thing to those going through difficult circumstances?\u00a0Artist Emily McDowell has been on the receiving end of some terrible responses after her own\u00a0diagnosis. Now, she creates kind and irreverent greeting cards that teach us all how to be a\u00a0little more human. She speaks with Kate about the best and worst things to say and do when\u00a0our loved ones are hurting. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/emily-mcdowell-theres-no-good-card-for-that-s2e1\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/emily-mcdowell-theres-no-good-card-for-that-s2e1\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/emily-mcdowell-theres-no-good-card-for-that-s2e1\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/EmilyMcDowell_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"There&#8217;s No Good Card for That\" 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and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/01\/\" rel=\"tag\">01<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/alan-alda-can-you-hear-me-now-s1e7\/\" target=\"_self\" >Can You Hear Me Now?<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/alan-alda\/\" rel=\"tag\">Alan Alda<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Alan Alda is best known for his prolific acting career. But he has also spent years learning about, and teaching, communication. The Emmy-winning actor and star of television&#8217;s M*A*S*H teaches doctors and scientists to communicate more effectively and wrote the recent book, If I Understood You, Would I Have This Look on My Face?. He talks with Kate about why human beings are so bad at talking about sickness&#8211; and about what helps them improve. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/alan-alda-can-you-hear-me-now-s1e7\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/alan-alda-can-you-hear-me-now-s1e7\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > 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kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ab13d1-1a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/01\/\" rel=\"tag\">01<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/04\/\" rel=\"tag\">04<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/joyful-anyways-with-margaret-feinberg-s1e5\/\" target=\"_self\" >Joyful, Anyways<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/margaret-feinberg\/\" rel=\"tag\">Margaret Feinberg<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Bestselling author and speaker, Margaret Feinberg was writing a book about joy when her world fell apart. Suddenly, she was fighting for her life and re-writing the book from scratch. Feinberg talks about how she learned how to be happy again, despite everything. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/joyful-anyways-with-margaret-feinberg-s1e5\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/joyful-anyways-with-margaret-feinberg-s1e5\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/joyful-anyways-with-margaret-feinberg-s1e5\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/MargaretFeinberg_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Joyful, Anyways\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/MargaretFeinberg_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/MargaretFeinberg_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/MargaretFeinberg_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/MargaretFeinberg_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-3372 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-grief tag-cancer tag-death-of-spouse tag-grief tag-love tag-pain tag-suffering tag-when-breath-becomes-air tag-widow kadence-cloud-keywords-cancer kadence-cloud-keywords-death-of-spouse kadence-cloud-keywords-grief kadence-cloud-keywords-love kadence-cloud-keywords-pain kadence-cloud-keywords-suffering kadence-cloud-keywords-when-breath-becomes-air 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class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_5de8f5-f3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/01\/\" rel=\"tag\">01<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b56b07-81:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b56b07-81 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b56b07-81\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b79d11-5a\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/02\/\" rel=\"tag\">02<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/lucy-kalanithi-costly-love\/\" target=\"_self\" >Costly Love<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/lucy-kalanithi\/\" rel=\"tag\">Lucy Kalanithi<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">When Lucy Kalanithi fell for another doctor, she couldn\u2019t know how much love would teach her about suffering. Lucy Kalanithi is the widow of Dr. Paul Kalanithi, author of the bestselling memoir, When Breath Becomes Air. She talks about the high cost of love and how all the best things in life are those you are afraid to lose. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_1d22e1-e2 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_1d22e1-e2\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_b76c5c-59 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/lucy-kalanithi-costly-love\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_2661e1-2d kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/lucy-kalanithi-costly-love\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_b86f69-fb\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/lucy-kalanithi-costly-love\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/LucyKalanithi_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Costly Love\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/LucyKalanithi_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/LucyKalanithi_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/LucyKalanithi_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/LucyKalanithi_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<style>.kb-row-layout-id26393_493589-ba > .kt-row-column-wrap{align-content:start;}:where(.kb-row-layout-id26393_493589-ba > .kt-row-column-wrap) > .wp-block-kadence-column{justify-content:start;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_493589-ba > .kt-row-column-wrap{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem);row-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem);max-width:var( --global-content-width, 1290px 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#1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/14\/\" rel=\"tag\">14<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-luckiest-unlucky-person\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Luckiest Unlucky Person<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/tig-notaro\/\" rel=\"tag\">Tig Notaro<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">How do you live knowing life can just come undone at a moment\u2019s notice? In the span of a few months, Tig Notaro received three life-threatening illnesses, unexpectedly lost her mom, and went through a breakup. Tig is a brilliant comedian whose real life informs her comedy and has a lot to teach us about living honestly in the face of reality. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, 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cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-luckiest-unlucky-person\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > 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srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tig-1.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tig-1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tig-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tig-1-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-16510 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-nuanced-hope tag-beheld tag-beheldedness tag-big-questions tag-happiness tag-how-to tag-how-to-live tag-joy tag-self-help bucket-inspiring-lives bucket-nuanced-hope guest-miroslav_volf season-591 episode-566\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 3rem);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19 > 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.kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_606030-22\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/13\/\" rel=\"tag\">13<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/miroslav_volf\/\" target=\"_self\" >Life Worth Living<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/miroslav_volf\/\" rel=\"tag\">Miroslav Volf<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">What makes a good life? How would you answer that question? Not just life in the abstract\u2026 but what makes YOUR life good? Professor Miroslav Volf teaches a popular class at Yale University which guides students through these kinds of questions and might help us all think a little more deeply about what our lives are adding up to be. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/miroslav_volf\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" 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(max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/miroslav_volf\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Mir.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Life Worth Living\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" 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.kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_606030-22\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/12\/\" rel=\"tag\">12<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/to-be-loved-like-that\/\" target=\"_self\" >To Be Loved Like That<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/kwame-alexander\/\" rel=\"tag\">Kwame Alexander<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Our most precious relationships are often our most complicated, aren\u2019t they? Poet and bestselling author Kwame Alexander wrote an honest book of poems and essays that name the difficult and beautiful and heart-wrenching conversations we have (or should be having) with the people we love and with the ones who love us. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/to-be-loved-like-that\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" 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class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/11\/\" rel=\"tag\">11<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/clear-eyes-full-hearts\/\" target=\"_self\" >Clear Eyes, Full Hearts<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/minka-kelly\/\" rel=\"tag\">Minka Kelly<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">How do we stay soft in a world that has taught us to be tough? Actress Minka Kelly is known for her roles as Lyla Garrity on Friday Night Lights or as Samantha in HBO\u2019s Euphoria. Despite her fame on the big screen, one might not realize the chaos that surrounded her childhood. Being raised by a single mom who worked as a stripper and struggled with addiction, Minka had to learn how to take care of herself and the adults around her, and, eventually, to forgive her mom. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/clear-eyes-full-hearts\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/MinkaKelley_500x500-2.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Clear Eyes, Full Hearts\" 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.kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_606030-22\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-art-of-presence\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Art of Presence<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/john-swinton\/\" rel=\"tag\">John Swinton<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Some people are the LEAN IN sort. They lean into your unsolvable problems, show up on your impossible days, and walk with you all the way to the end.\u00a0How do we become them? How do we create belonging when the people we love experience such uncertainty?\u00a0Practical theologian and mental health nurse John Swinton knows a thing or two about\u00a0this\u00a0kind of love.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-art-of-presence\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/the-art-of-presence\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/JohnSwinton2_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"The Art of Presence\" 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style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/09\/\" rel=\"tag\">09<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/this-place-could-be-beautiful-right\/\" target=\"_self\" >This Place Could be Beautiful, Right?<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/maggie-smith\/\" rel=\"tag\">Maggie Smith<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Maggie Smith (poet and author of books like\u00a0Keep Moving\u00a0and\u00a0You Could Make This Place Beautiful)\u00a0chronicles the aftermath of a painful divorce she didn\u2019t see coming. How do we raise our kids in the wake of such change? And how do we reconcile who we are and who we are becoming?\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/this-place-could-be-beautiful-right\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/this-place-could-be-beautiful-right\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/this-place-could-be-beautiful-right\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MaggieSmith_500x500-2.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"This Place Could be Beautiful, Right?\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" 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style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/08\/\" rel=\"tag\">08<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/no-more-do-overs\/\" target=\"_self\" >No More Do Overs<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/mary-louise-kelly\/\" rel=\"tag\">Mary Louise Kelly<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">What happens when the people we built our lives around stop needing us? Or when we have to pick between our meaningful careers or our family? And what do we do with the ambiguous grief that comes with every expected and unexpected change? Today, Kate takes an honest look at juggling the demands on our time and on our heart with NPR\u2019s Mary Louise Kelly. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/no-more-do-overs\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/no-more-do-overs\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/no-more-do-overs\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MaryLouiseKelly_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"No More Do Overs\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" 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.kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_606030-22\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/07\/\" rel=\"tag\">07<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/dont-come-out-empty-handed\/\" target=\"_self\" >Don&#8217;t Come Out Empty Handed<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/steve_leder\/\" rel=\"tag\">Rabbi Steve Leder<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">How should you show up for people in grief? What do you say? What should you do? Why is it that beauty can exist alongside deep suffering? What can be said at funerals when the person who died was complicated? These are just a few of the questions I wanted to ask Steve Leder\u2014a bestselling author and a rabbi who has presided over a thousand funerals with wisdom and kindness.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 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aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/dont-come-out-empty-handed\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/dont-come-out-empty-handed\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/RabbiSteveLeder_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Don&#8217;t Come Out Empty Handed\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" 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class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/06\/\" rel=\"tag\">06<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/where-we-turn-for-meaning\/\" target=\"_self\" >Where We Turn for Meaning<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/michaelignatieff\/\" rel=\"tag\">Michael Ignatieff<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Historian and Canadian politician Michael Ignatieff explores the\u00a0cracks\u00a0in our seamless worldviews\u2026 or at least the worldviews we\u00a0thought\u00a0were seamless until we\u2019re faced with tragedies of all kinds.\u00a0In this wide-ranging exploration,\u00a0Kate and Michael probe humanity&#8217;s enduring attempt to console ourselves and construct meaning from our pain. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/where-we-turn-for-meaning\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/where-we-turn-for-meaning\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > 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podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_606030-22\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > 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.kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/05\/\" rel=\"tag\">05<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/complicated-grief-and-complicated-love\/\" target=\"_self\" >Complicated Grief and Complicated Love<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/palina-porizkova\/\" rel=\"tag\">Paulina Porizkova<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Supermodel Paulina Porizkova has been in the public eye all her life. But it has been a rollercoaster of soaring successes and deep heartache. Grief and pain comes to us all, and in those moments, we need our shared humanity (and not our super-anythingness) to build a bridge back to others. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/complicated-grief-and-complicated-love\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/complicated-grief-and-complicated-love\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > 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kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_606030-22\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/04\/\" rel=\"tag\">04<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/number-our-days\/\" target=\"_self\" >Number Our Days<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/tomlong\/\" rel=\"tag\">Tom Long<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">The Reverend Tom Long wrote the book on funerals.\u00a0No, really.\u00a0When grief threatens to swallow us whole, Tom reminds us of our place in a bigger story of hope and faith, of interdependence and the importance of community. He describes the necessity of ritual to pull us into a wider, truer story than the trite version our culture likes to tell. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/number-our-days\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/number-our-days\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/number-our-days\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/TomLong_500x500_2.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Number Our Days\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/TomLong_500x500_2.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/TomLong_500x500_2-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/TomLong_500x500_2-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-15729 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-moving-forward tag-child-loss tag-grief tag-parenting tag-spouse-dying tag-widow bucket-complicated-families bucket-grief bucket-inspiring-lives guest-elainepagels season-591 episode-551\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 3rem);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19 > .kt-row-column-wrap{align-content:start;}:where(.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19 > .kt-row-column-wrap) > 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1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_bcac7c-00 > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_bcac7c-00{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_bcac7c-00 > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_bcac7c-00 alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_606030-22\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/03\/\" rel=\"tag\">03<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/love-pulls-you-forward\/\" target=\"_self\" >Love Pulls You Forward<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/elainepagels\/\" rel=\"tag\">Elaine Pagels<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Over thirty years ago, Elaine Pagels\u2019 young son and husband died within the same year. In this tender conversation, Kate and Elaine discuss surviving the aftermath of such devastation, the painful explanations religion often offers, and how we love and keep loving even after so much tragedy.\u00a0 <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 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stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/love-pulls-you-forward\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" 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.kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_606030-22\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media 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style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Every problem New York Times columnist Frank Bruni faced had a simple fix. Doctors offered reasonable solutions for reasonable problems. Preventative care guaranteed future health. That is, until he woke up one morning without vision in his eye. This experience forced him to rethink how much of life is in our control and how to live fully in the face of unfixable problems. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/adapting-to-loss\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/adapting-to-loss\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:1; padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:0;padding-right:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/adapting-to-loss\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FrankBruni_500x500.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Adapting to Loss\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FrankBruni_500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FrankBruni_500x500-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FrankBruni_500x500-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/katebowler.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FrankBruni_500x500-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-15691 podcast type-podcast status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-resilient-faith tag-abuse tag-adverse-childhood tag-complicated-families tag-faith tag-grief tag-parent-dying tag-prayer tag-truth bucket-complicated-families bucket-resilient-faith guest-bethmoore season-591 episode-549\">\n<style>.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19{margin-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-lg, 3rem);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19 > .kt-row-column-wrap{align-content:start;}:where(.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19 > .kt-row-column-wrap) > .wp-block-kadence-column{justify-content:start;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19 > .kt-row-column-wrap{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem);row-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem);padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:var(--global-kb-spacing-xxl, 5rem);grid-template-columns:minmax(0, calc(50% - ((var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem) * 1 )\/2)))minmax(0, calc(50% - ((var(--global-kb-gap-md, 2rem) * 1 )\/2)));}.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19{border-bottom:1px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19 > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19 > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:repeat(2, minmax(0, 1fr));}}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_05cece-19{border-bottom:1px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}}@media all and 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1.5rem);padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}.kb-row-layout-id26393_bcac7c-00 > .kt-row-layout-overlay{opacity:0.30;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-row-layout-id26393_bcac7c-00 > .kt-row-column-wrap{grid-template-columns:minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 1fr) minmax(0, 2fr);}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kb-row-layout-wrap.wp-block-kadence-rowlayout.kb-row-layout-id26393_bcac7c-00{margin-top:0px;}.kb-row-layout-id26393_bcac7c-00 > .kt-row-column-wrap{padding-top:0px;grid-template-columns:repeat(4, minmax(0, 1fr));}}<\/style><div class=\"kb-row-layout-wrap kb-row-layout-id26393_bcac7c-00 alignnone podcast-page-seasons wp-block-kadence-rowlayout\"><div class=\"kt-row-column-wrap kt-has-4-columns kt-row-layout-right-forty kt-tab-layout-inherit kt-mobile-layout-equal kt-row-valign-middle\">\n<style>.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_606030-22{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_606030-22 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_606030-22\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Season<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3 > .kt-inside-inner-col{border-top:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-right:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-bottom:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);border-left:0px solid var(--global-palette3, #1A202C);flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_ee5859-a3\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-season has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/season\/10\/\" rel=\"tag\">10<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73{position:relative;}.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73, .kt-inside-inner-col > .kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73:not(.specificity){margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_d0d1ec-73\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/01\/\" rel=\"tag\">01<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/back-to-the-beginning\/\" target=\"_self\" >Back to the Beginning<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/bethmoore\/\" rel=\"tag\">Beth Moore<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Beth Moore has been in the limelight for almost thirty years, but during that time, she revealed very little about her formative family history. Now, this world-famous Bible teacher is ready to tell her story for the first time. <\/p><\/div>\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7{padding-top:var(--global-kb-spacing-sm, 1.5rem);gap:var(--global-kb-gap-xs, 0.5rem );justify-content:flex-start;align-items:center;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-button{font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0{margin-right:5px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button{color:#555555;border-color:#555555;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{color:#ffffff;border-color:#444444;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button::before{display:none;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:hover, .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn.kt-btns26393_6b62c8-d7 .kt-btn-wrap-0 .kt-button:focus{background:#444444;}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn kb-buttons-wrap kb-btns26393_6b62c8-d7\"><style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_ddb589-c4 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/back-to-the-beginning\/\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_playCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polygon points=\"10 8 16 12 10 16 10 8\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Listen<\/span><\/a>\n\n<style>ul.menu .wp-block-kadence-advancedbtn .kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button{width:initial;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1.kb-button .kb-svg-icon-wrap{display:block;}}<\/style><a class=\"kb-button kt-button button kb-btn26393_7f4629-d1 kt-btn-size-standard kt-btn-width-type-auto kb-btn-global-inherit kt-btn-has-text-true kt-btn-has-svg-true wp-block-button__link wp-block-kadence-singlebtn\" href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/back-to-the-beginning\/#transcript\"><span class=\"kb-svg-icon-wrap kb-svg-icon-fe_arrowDownCircle kt-btn-icon-side-left\"><svg viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"  fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"  aria-hidden=\"true\"><circle cx=\"12\" cy=\"12\" r=\"10\"\/><polyline points=\"8 12 12 16 16 12\"\/><line x1=\"12\" y1=\"8\" x2=\"12\" y2=\"16\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"kt-btn-inner-text\">Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_138e8a-f4 > 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class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\" style=\"text-transform:uppercase\">Episode<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<style>.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col,.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{border-top-left-radius:0px;border-top-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-right-radius:0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0px;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{column-gap:var(--global-kb-gap-sm, 1rem);}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col > .aligncenter{width:100%;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col:before{opacity:0.3;}.kadence-column26393_338960-46{position:relative;}@media all and (max-width: 1024px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}@media all and (max-width: 767px){.kadence-column26393_338960-46 > .kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;}}<\/style>\n<div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column26393_338960-46\"><div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\"><div class=\"taxonomy-episode has-text-align-left wp-block-post-terms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/episode\/00\/\" rel=\"tag\">00<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h2 style=\"color:#5453b4; font-size:39px; padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-text-color\"><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/podcasts\/blessing-our-actual-lives\/\" target=\"_self\" >Blessing our ACTUAL Lives<\/a><\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"taxonomy-guest guest-name wp-block-post-terms has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"wp-block-post-terms__prefix\">With <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/katebowler.com\/guest\/jessica-richie\/\" rel=\"tag\">Jessica Richie<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);\" class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Welcome to SEASON TEN of the Everything Happens Podcast! Kate and Jessica talk about their work on the Everything Happens Project and podcast over the past 10 seasons. They also talk about their new book\u00a0The Lives We Actually Have, which is a book of blessings. 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